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[jepril]

Hello. I participate in a workgroup that exchanges information using Microsoft OneNote. Is there any way to open or import such files in Curio and conversely export or write the Curio files so that they can be opened/imported into OneNote? Thanks

[george]

Not currently although that's increasingly becoming a popular request.

[jepril]

thx for the info.

[mnmcook]

I'll add my request to your growing list too George. We're finally getting a few Macs and Curio into the office through my convincing. The others haven't been using Onenote either, but I have a huge amount of onenote notebooks I'd hate to lose or have to keep segregated in an MS VM.

I'm looking forward to finally being able to use Curio everyday at work and introduce others to it. I've only used about 30% of Curio's power so far and my sense as a longtime OneNote user is that Curio offers considerably more and much of the differences are disappearing as your product evolves. I note you are getting a number of new OneNote users posting in the forum as we've scoured the web looking for an analogous program for the Mac. Curio was a great discovery for me.

I think your new users could help future OneNote emigrants by compiling in one spot a FAQ or something that captures best practices and suggestions to ease migration, whether it's a capability or workflow suggestions as we're seeing across different postings.

[mnmcook]

Followup -- in fact I'd be interested mostly in the import/conversion of files rather than a full import/export capability. Would help people migrate to Curio.

[sbabolat]

What I did, albeit not the greatest method and certainly not a conversion one, was to create pdf of my notebooks, then importing them and spreading the pdfs.

That does the trick or reorganizing for now.

Works well. The search searches in all pages - kinda annoying. I need to test with exported pdf that have been ocr(ed), to see if it can search only in the needed pages

[mnmcook]

Thanks, any additional ideas besides PDF? Some of of my section pages in onenote have a lot of hyperlinks (typically to the internet not local). I can export into Word, but that only embeds the Doc file in Curio and I'd like to have the idea space function like the original onenote page without opening an embedded document. I also tried exporting as a web archive (MHTL?), but by the time I got that opened and copied into Curio, it became a PDF too. I got close by saving as RTF, though it looked odd the hyperlinks worked. Just started trying out options, but running out of ideas. I was hoping even saving it as MHT, opening in Safari, and cut/paste from there to Curio would preserve the links, but don't appear to.

[george]

I'm curious as to what the web export file looks like. Do you have a representative export that (ideally) includes text, a hyperlink, and an image? It seems like copying and pasting the Safari-rendered version of that should work in Curio.

Can you mail me a zipped up export?

[mnmcook]

I'll get you one George.

[mnmcook]

OK, I have a method that seems to work (thanks to George's help) but haven't had a chance to test it as extensively as I'd like yet. I'll post back here if I find major problems.

Here's the skinny:

1) Export from OneNote into a single file web archive (.mht format). You can select and export multiple sections/pages at once.

2) Move the file over to the Mac and rename the extension from .mht to .eml.

3) Open the .eml file in Apple Mail (it thinks it's an email message).

4) Select and drag the contents from Apple Mail onto a Curio idea space.

This should work for other MS software files you want to move to the Mac/Curio as well. Seems there is a format for a single file HTML web archive MS uses called MHTML. The MS suite of s/w all read/write it but many other applications can't.

Anyway, you can export from OneNote into this webarchive format. I sent several sections into one file, then copied it over to the Mac. I could read it into the Mac version of Office I have, but couldn't copy and paste it into Curio and have it retain layout and hyperlinks well. George helped me by finding out that the MHTML format can be read by Apple Mail with the .eml renaming and the drag and drop seems to work properly from there.

It did *not* work from the MS Office version of Word on the Mac. Interestingly, I also run Windows 7 in Parallels. I don't have a copy of MS Office on W7, but I was able to read the .mht file into Internet Explorer. I was able to drag and drop from the IE window into Curio with the same formatting as from Apple Mail. One less step (no renaming), but I figure there are a lot more people that have Apple Mail than have IE7 on their mac.

Note, my test had extensive tables in OneNote with hyperlinks in one column. I really wanted the the table format preserved as well as the hyperlinks. They port okay and work as desired with this process, but they do not take advantage of Curio's Table asset. I tried creating such a Table Asset from the data after imported as above, but it didn't work right (seems to have row/column understanding issues). So you won't be able to use all of the Curio Table's attributes and functionality with the method here, but it does save time on at least importing/migrating to Curio.

[george]

Thanks for summarizing all your hard work!

[glans25]

I'm a new user to Curio and Mac, coming from OneNote. The posted solution was great help to east the transition.
However, I was not able to open images with the above method - I got only image placeholders in Mail - even if Mail is configured to automatically download images.

After doing some searching, I came up with the following suggestion - which works fine with images and links:

1. Install Firefox on your Mac
2. Install the MHT add on for Firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/mozilla-archive-format/

At this point you can see the MHT file with images. However, selecting the text and dragging it into Curio will lose its formatting and images (any idea why?)

3. Install Evernote and webclip for Firefox
4. Send the MHT page to Evernote using the Webclip in Firefox
5. Import MHT page from Evernote into Curio

Works with original formatting and images. Elements such as check boxes are converted to images.

Please note that neither this method nor the Mail method allows you to import file attachment inside OneNote to Curio. That's a pity, since I have all my articles inside OneNote, and a review text next to them...

Glans

[george]

Very interesting news!

It could be that Firefox isn't putting RTFD information on the clipboard when you drag-and-drop from there, although I'm not sure why not if they're rendering rich text on the window.

[glans25]

Yeap, if I could get it directly from Firefox without Evernote - that would've been sweet. Especially when moving large files which Evernote uploads to the web, before you can grab it to Curio.
Maybe it's the specific add-on? there are a couple of more out there, I'll give them a try...

[elephantboy90]

Although I'm about to try the mht method, can I ask if there is now a sufficient volume of requests for a OneNote import facility that this might be put into the Curio Roadmap?

My specific interest is based on a collection of OneNote notebooks on my PC which exceeds 1Gb !!